Apparently these are not reproductions and are actually real surplus… don’t try using them as an actual CBRN gasmask without restoring and testing it, but as far as fashion goes?
Very fashionable, imo, this basic design seems to be a staple of uh… europunk/euroalt? I’m not really sure what the genre or scene names would be, but I’ve seen this kind of design in many ‘sexy lady with gas mask’ style videos, lol.
I’m guessing its because the kind of ‘noodle nose’ thing is evocative of the stereotypical ‘Plauge Doctor’ mask.
You can always just layer over the eyepieces with translucent plastic or even just carefully layered and fixed, colored saran wrap, lol.
And there are many other slightly different but generally design-element-similar masks.
Ahahaha thank you, I actually own several GP-5s, along with quite a few M65s, a bunch of half-face 3M respirators and a miscellaneous assortment of other masks. The silver-lensed one that’s my favorite is actually an MSA SCBA mask, not a proper gas mask (Fire-fighting surplus, damn things are like $600 new). I do love the classic look of the GP5s but they stretch out so fast and aren’t otherwise adjustable (and theres the whole fucking GOST vs. NATO 40MM thread thing that makes accessories a huge pain in the ass to fit), it’s a real shame.
I was really just hoping you knew of a like… idk, formal-dress gas mask? I’ve been wanting to pick up one of the chinese clones of the Israeli Model 4 masks that have been coming out, just haven’t pulled the trigger on one yet. IDK if you have recommendations I’m genuinely interested, I have a -huge- heavy rubber collection (which I uh… seem to have never posted any of my latex? I should really fix that…)
(Incidental, but they make colored self-adhesive window tint for putting on your car! That’s the best thing I’ve found for lenses - it’s what I’m using on the one in most of my photos, and it comes in all kinds of colors)
Well I’ve just been thoroughly outclassed in terms of gas masks; I’m not even embarassed, I’m impressed!
Yeah well, now I’ve got a bunch of uh, studying to do.
M3s are like the uh… the 90s US ones, like the ones the soldiers in Half Life 1 have, right? Bigger, non circular eyepieces? Or is that the M65?
Whereas the Half Life 2 masks are generally more based on the GOST format, just without the ‘cheeks’, kind of?
And it does make sense that that one you often wear is actually not a military oriented mask… I’m not quite sure why, maybe its just cheaper to mass produce less transparent, hardcore plastic, maybe its to be able to retain some abililty to get a scoped/sighted weapon up to just one eye… but yeah, I can’t say I’m familiar with a military mask that has like a mono-faceplate.
(Well, beyond like, a bomb defusal squad mask, or pilot masks/helmets, but im fairly confident those aren’t gas masks. so i guess no military infantry gas masks are monocular/monofaceplate?)
That israeli clone of a chinese upgraded clone/vatiant of roughly a gp5 seems legit to me! Though I’ve never actually worn a gasmask, so I don’t know dick at a practical level about actual fit and stretch and mounting/attach harness types and such, which would obviously be quite important.
The car window tint adhesive… thats a good idea, that’s quite a good idea.
Perhaps if I do something sufficiently submissive you’ll send me a spare, hahah?
I don’t know, I’m too much of a switch to roleplay anything too long, with too much dedication…
Maybe you’d prefer dominant instead? I can kind of do both. =P
But anyway, having any gasmask just in case the world actually “ends” would make me feel a bit safer, lol, what with the US economy imploding at an accelerating rate, and the idiot man baby in charge of it all.
(edit: sorry typo, I meant 3M respirators, as in the company, not the M3 gas mask)
Yeah, the HL1 masks were probably based on the M3 - them polygons make it hard to tell tho…
IIRC the masks the Combine wear in HL2 were based off the soviet ShMS masks, if those were the ones you were referring to!
I can’t say I’m familiar with a military mask that has like a mono-faceplate.
It’s kinda convoluted, but military gasmasks (as in, things designed to protect from chemical weapons) are pretty much a singularly defensive thing - you’re never going to send infantry into a big cloud of Sarin or VX, you’d just send CBRN vehicles (or more realistically just blow the whole thing to shit with artillery, it’s not like you’d need to worry about civilian casualties…) - and as a result military gas masks are only kept around in case of an emergency. And so the priority isn’t “Can operate with a full field of view while wearing it”, it’s “Make sure the Jarheads don’t leave it behind because it’s too fucking heavy”.
Big clear faceplates, while they give you excellent visibility and are great for shooting through, are terrible at “being stuffed into a backpack”. They’re just too bulky. There’s of course exceptions (the cold war got WILD with designs)
but this is why riot police wear things like this:
because they’re pretty much the only example where people go towards big clouds of chemical weapons, and they have the luxury of knowing that they’re going to be used so they don’t have to lug the damn things around in a backpack thus can use the bulkier-but-more-comfortable-and-ergonomic masks.
The mask I really want is an (MCU-2/P | MSA Advantage 1000 | MSA millennium), which imho are the coolest looking masks ever produced AND an exception to the above rule about mono-plate military masks - though as far as I’m aware they were never issued to combat infantry and were primarily fire-escape or emergency equipment for the military.
Perhaps if I do something sufficiently submissive you’ll send me a spare, hahah?
Barking up the wrong tree if you’re looking for dom energy sadly, I’m such a sub that making me do dominant things has occasionally been used as a punishment. It’d probably cost more for me to ship one to you than it would to just get one off ebay, sadly. DAMN the rates have gone up…
But anyway, having any gasmask just in case the world actually “ends” would make me feel a bit safer
I really recommend an M65 - I pass them out whenever shit goes down around here and they’re fucking fantastic against teargas, and the lenses are impact-rated so they won’t pop out if you get clocked with a baton round (which btw: ouch). Can’t have a beard (true of all gas masks) and you ABSOLUTELY MUST fit them before you need them - they are truly, godawfully, horrible to adjust (I recommend a chopstick and patience - it’ll come loose eventually, I swear).
They’re by no means the sexiest, but for practical purposes they cannot be beat.
Ah, yep, you’re completely right, its the ShMS masks that are much closer to the Civil Protection design, though in the game they’re … somewhere between hard plastic and metal, not squishy rubber, going by the texture/reflectance/normalmap/phongmap.
History of military gas masks:
Sounds entirely on point to me, significant detail and it all logically follows, and comports with what I know of military history/tactics/equipment.
MSA Millenium Mask:
Welp, stylistically at least, I totally agree, that thing looks incredible.
Also makes sense that it would basically only be used in some kind of terrorism response situation, ala Tom Clancy’s proverbial Rainbow Six team, but not for… general military use in an admittedly unconventional situation… given its seemingly fairly extreme cost.
Submissive Mask Grovelling:
Well, hah, I could play the dom a bit as well… if you ask nicely.
You have more than proven your aptitude as a suitable servant, but… compliance has not yet really been established, muchless tested.
…
Ahem.
So yeah I normally feel a lot more comfortable playing a dom in person… kind of a bad idea to just default to that in general, in a pseudonymous, mostly text based format, especially where consent has not yet been established explicitly.
That and… the micro expressions.
The little pants and sighs and intonations.
The posture shifts.
The… twitches.
Sometimes… even the smell.
Its much more… present, visceral, in person, really hard to capture that digitally, even with modern VR stuff.
Selfishly, its more rewarding, and beyond that, just more informative, lets me be able to gauge how good of a job I’m actually doing.
… you could maybe wear your mask if you beg for it.
… Ahem.
But yes, tariffs very bad, actually.
I guess I would politely appreciate a suggestion toward something… reasonably useful and reasonable wearable and reasonably affordable?
You are after all an actual connissuer of gas masks, I’d be an idiot to not recognize your actual expertise here.
M65? Ok, I can start there.
And you say… no beard?
As in totally clean shaven?
Or, as in, ~ a quarter inch worth of moderately groomed 5 o clock would be… annoying, but manageable?
… the dexterity for fitting should not be a problem, nor should the required persistence.
I managed to survive ~2 years of homelessness with an entirely crippled dominant… hand, wrist, shoulder, entire side, leg, ankle…
I managed to teach myself how to cook entirely left handed, also taking account my near total inability to stand or walk… I think I can handle a gas mask, can’t be much worse than jerry rigging my own slings and splints and such, again, entirely weak handed.
Especially after a year of daily PT.
… clocked with a baton round?
I’ve taken a good number of blows in my life, last one I really remember was more or less an unarmed tomahawk chop from a guy with at least 2 inches of height and 40 lbs of muscle over me…
I just tanked it with my skull, didn’t even try to block it.
… I was a karateka for around a decade.
A good basic stance can go a long way.
Many vs me situation, I was prioritizing delaying and intimidating them.
… This did work, toward those ends.
But… a baton roundel… is a lot more dense, a lot smaller surface area, and easier to get a lot more leverage with.
… I probably would have eventually died from a brain bleed, fractured cranium, if I tried that tactic against that same guy, but with a baton.
You are only impressing me more and more.
I very rarely encounter people so… varied in lived experiences, yet also of similar mindset, and interests.
Hopefully you are familiar with Cowboy Bebop, and understand when I say:
“I like the kind of woman who will just actually kill me.”
(Formatting pro tip! Two spaces at the end of a line before hitting return prevents it automatically adding in a full line break)
M65 stuff:
a quarter inch worth of moderately groomed 5 o clock
You can keep the short beard but if you do need to slather it with vaseline before putting the beard on. Like, a gross amount. It absolutely will break the seal to have even a short amount of beard like that.
… the dexterity for fitting should not be a problem, nor should the required persistence.
Lol I’m glad, just be warned that it’s a real pain in the ass to get them fitted. Upside, they don’t slip while stored!
Ah, baton round not a proper baton:
Big steel rod covered in rubber, fired out of a 40mm grenade launcher. Better than getting domed by a solid wood baton held in someone’s hand, but not by all that much. Supposed to be nonlethal but Lol. Lmao, even. Jokes on the police tho, I’m a masochist! What now, coppers?
kind of a bad idea to just default to that in general
Lol yeah, I can see that. People seldom react poorly to a submissive girl, which is nice for me but I suppose at the same time I’m not looking to roleplay with people so there isn’t much for them to object to on that front, either.
“I like the kind of woman who will just actually kill me.”
Man, was that meme really only 4 years ago?? I thought it was an ancient one. Dang…
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One of these days I really should do a gonemild post showcasing my collection of vintage velvet cocktail dresses…
I think I can practically guarantee that if you can cosplay as a lounge singer, you’ll have quite a lot of fans on lemmy, haha!
I wonder if someone out there makes a lounge-appropriate gas mask…
Basically, just go with anything black and rubber, with two circular eyepieces.
You can often luck out and find one of those at a local milsurp store.
I’m fairly confident there are a plethora of examples from like Rammstein or Kaisers Orchestra music videos, or even SlipKnot.
Ah. But I forget who I am talking to:
You already own a gas mask.
I’m sure the one you have would do fine, lol.
(though maybe balance out its large monocular face piece with exaggerated or substantial shoulder padding on the dress?)
But if you insist on another one, Id recommend something like the old Soviet GP-5:
Giant Ebay URL
Apparently these are not reproductions and are actually real surplus… don’t try using them as an actual CBRN gasmask without restoring and testing it, but as far as fashion goes?
Very fashionable, imo, this basic design seems to be a staple of uh… europunk/euroalt? I’m not really sure what the genre or scene names would be, but I’ve seen this kind of design in many ‘sexy lady with gas mask’ style videos, lol.
I’m guessing its because the kind of ‘noodle nose’ thing is evocative of the stereotypical ‘Plauge Doctor’ mask.
You can always just layer over the eyepieces with translucent plastic or even just carefully layered and fixed, colored saran wrap, lol.
And there are many other slightly different but generally design-element-similar masks.
Ahahaha thank you, I actually own several GP-5s, along with quite a few M65s, a bunch of half-face 3M respirators and a miscellaneous assortment of other masks. The silver-lensed one that’s my favorite is actually an MSA SCBA mask, not a proper gas mask (Fire-fighting surplus, damn things are like $600 new). I do love the classic look of the GP5s but they stretch out so fast and aren’t otherwise adjustable (and theres the whole fucking GOST vs. NATO 40MM thread thing that makes accessories a huge pain in the ass to fit), it’s a real shame.
I was really just hoping you knew of a like… idk, formal-dress gas mask? I’ve been wanting to pick up one of the chinese clones of the Israeli Model 4 masks that have been coming out, just haven’t pulled the trigger on one yet. IDK if you have recommendations I’m genuinely interested, I have a -huge- heavy rubber collection (which I uh… seem to have never posted any of my latex? I should really fix that…)
(Incidental, but they make colored self-adhesive window tint for putting on your car! That’s the best thing I’ve found for lenses - it’s what I’m using on the one in most of my photos, and it comes in all kinds of colors)
Well I’ve just been thoroughly outclassed in terms of gas masks; I’m not even embarassed, I’m impressed!
Yeah well, now I’ve got a bunch of uh, studying to do.
M3s are like the uh… the 90s US ones, like the ones the soldiers in Half Life 1 have, right? Bigger, non circular eyepieces? Or is that the M65?
Whereas the Half Life 2 masks are generally more based on the GOST format, just without the ‘cheeks’, kind of?
And it does make sense that that one you often wear is actually not a military oriented mask… I’m not quite sure why, maybe its just cheaper to mass produce less transparent, hardcore plastic, maybe its to be able to retain some abililty to get a scoped/sighted weapon up to just one eye… but yeah, I can’t say I’m familiar with a military mask that has like a mono-faceplate.
(Well, beyond like, a bomb defusal squad mask, or pilot masks/helmets, but im fairly confident those aren’t gas masks. so i guess no military infantry gas masks are monocular/monofaceplate?)
That israeli clone of a chinese upgraded clone/vatiant of roughly a gp5 seems legit to me! Though I’ve never actually worn a gasmask, so I don’t know dick at a practical level about actual fit and stretch and mounting/attach harness types and such, which would obviously be quite important.
The car window tint adhesive… thats a good idea, that’s quite a good idea.
Perhaps if I do something sufficiently submissive you’ll send me a spare, hahah?
I don’t know, I’m too much of a switch to roleplay anything too long, with too much dedication…
Maybe you’d prefer dominant instead? I can kind of do both. =P
But anyway, having any gasmask just in case the world actually “ends” would make me feel a bit safer, lol, what with the US economy imploding at an accelerating rate, and the idiot man baby in charge of it all.
(edit: sorry typo, I meant 3M respirators, as in the company, not the M3 gas mask)
Yeah, the HL1 masks were probably based on the M3 - them polygons make it hard to tell tho…
IIRC the masks the Combine wear in HL2 were based off the soviet ShMS masks, if those were the ones you were referring to!
It’s kinda convoluted, but military gasmasks (as in, things designed to protect from chemical weapons) are pretty much a singularly defensive thing - you’re never going to send infantry into a big cloud of Sarin or VX, you’d just send CBRN vehicles (or more realistically just blow the whole thing to shit with artillery, it’s not like you’d need to worry about civilian casualties…) - and as a result military gas masks are only kept around in case of an emergency. And so the priority isn’t “Can operate with a full field of view while wearing it”, it’s “Make sure the Jarheads don’t leave it behind because it’s too fucking heavy”.
Big clear faceplates, while they give you excellent visibility and are great for shooting through, are terrible at “being stuffed into a backpack”. They’re just too bulky. There’s of course exceptions (the cold war got WILD with designs)
but this is why riot police wear things like this:
because they’re pretty much the only example where people go towards big clouds of chemical weapons, and they have the luxury of knowing that they’re going to be used so they don’t have to lug the damn things around in a backpack thus can use the bulkier-but-more-comfortable-and-ergonomic masks.
The mask I really want is an (MCU-2/P | MSA Advantage 1000 | MSA millennium), which imho are the coolest looking masks ever produced AND an exception to the above rule about mono-plate military masks - though as far as I’m aware they were never issued to combat infantry and were primarily fire-escape or emergency equipment for the military.
Barking up the wrong tree if you’re looking for dom energy sadly, I’m such a sub that making me do dominant things has occasionally been used as a punishment. It’d probably cost more for me to ship one to you than it would to just get one off ebay, sadly. DAMN the rates have gone up…
I really recommend an M65 - I pass them out whenever shit goes down around here and they’re fucking fantastic against teargas, and the lenses are impact-rated so they won’t pop out if you get clocked with a baton round (which btw: ouch). Can’t have a beard (true of all gas masks) and you ABSOLUTELY MUST fit them before you need them - they are truly, godawfully, horrible to adjust (I recommend a chopstick and patience - it’ll come loose eventually, I swear).
They’re by no means the sexiest, but for practical purposes they cannot be beat.
Half Life Masks:
Ah, yep, you’re completely right, its the ShMS masks that are much closer to the Civil Protection design, though in the game they’re … somewhere between hard plastic and metal, not squishy rubber, going by the texture/reflectance/normalmap/phongmap.
History of military gas masks:
Sounds entirely on point to me, significant detail and it all logically follows, and comports with what I know of military history/tactics/equipment.
MSA Millenium Mask:
Welp, stylistically at least, I totally agree, that thing looks incredible.
Also makes sense that it would basically only be used in some kind of terrorism response situation, ala Tom Clancy’s proverbial Rainbow Six team, but not for… general military use in an admittedly unconventional situation… given its seemingly fairly extreme cost.
Submissive Mask Grovelling:
Well, hah, I could play the dom a bit as well… if you ask nicely.
You have more than proven your aptitude as a suitable servant, but… compliance has not yet really been established, muchless tested.
…
Ahem.
So yeah I normally feel a lot more comfortable playing a dom in person… kind of a bad idea to just default to that in general, in a pseudonymous, mostly text based format, especially where consent has not yet been established explicitly.
That and… the micro expressions.
The little pants and sighs and intonations.
The posture shifts.
The… twitches.
Sometimes… even the smell.
Its much more… present, visceral, in person, really hard to capture that digitally, even with modern VR stuff.
Selfishly, its more rewarding, and beyond that, just more informative, lets me be able to gauge how good of a job I’m actually doing.
… you could maybe wear your mask if you beg for it.
… Ahem.
But yes, tariffs very bad, actually.
I guess I would politely appreciate a suggestion toward something… reasonably useful and reasonable wearable and reasonably affordable?
You are after all an actual connissuer of gas masks, I’d be an idiot to not recognize your actual expertise here.
M65? Ok, I can start there.
And you say… no beard?
As in totally clean shaven?
Or, as in, ~ a quarter inch worth of moderately groomed 5 o clock would be… annoying, but manageable?
… the dexterity for fitting should not be a problem, nor should the required persistence.
I managed to survive ~2 years of homelessness with an entirely crippled dominant… hand, wrist, shoulder, entire side, leg, ankle…
I managed to teach myself how to cook entirely left handed, also taking account my near total inability to stand or walk… I think I can handle a gas mask, can’t be much worse than jerry rigging my own slings and splints and such, again, entirely weak handed.
Especially after a year of daily PT.
… clocked with a baton round?
I’ve taken a good number of blows in my life, last one I really remember was more or less an unarmed tomahawk chop from a guy with at least 2 inches of height and 40 lbs of muscle over me…
I just tanked it with my skull, didn’t even try to block it.
… I was a karateka for around a decade.
A good basic stance can go a long way.
Many vs me situation, I was prioritizing delaying and intimidating them.
… This did work, toward those ends.
But… a baton roundel… is a lot more dense, a lot smaller surface area, and easier to get a lot more leverage with.
… I probably would have eventually died from a brain bleed, fractured cranium, if I tried that tactic against that same guy, but with a baton.
You are only impressing me more and more.
I very rarely encounter people so… varied in lived experiences, yet also of similar mindset, and interests.
Hopefully you are familiar with Cowboy Bebop, and understand when I say:
“I like the kind of woman who will just actually kill me.”
(Formatting pro tip! Two spaces at the end of a line before hitting return prevents it automatically adding in a full line break)
M65 stuff:
You can keep the short beard but if you do need to slather it with vaseline before putting the beard on. Like, a gross amount. It absolutely will break the seal to have even a short amount of beard like that.
Lol I’m glad, just be warned that it’s a real pain in the ass to get them fitted. Upside, they don’t slip while stored!
Ah, baton round not a proper baton:
Big steel rod covered in rubber, fired out of a 40mm grenade launcher. Better than getting domed by a solid wood baton held in someone’s hand, but not by all that much. Supposed to be nonlethal but Lol. Lmao, even. Jokes on the police tho, I’m a masochist! What now, coppers?
Lol yeah, I can see that. People seldom react poorly to a submissive girl, which is nice for me but I suppose at the same time I’m not looking to roleplay with people so there isn’t much for them to object to on that front, either.
Man, was that meme really only 4 years ago?? I thought it was an ancient one. Dang…