• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    17 days ago

    Explanation: In the modern day, Neonazis and other racist fuckwits have taken up Norse runes as a dog whistle for their politics. For obvious reasons, fans of Norse history, Norse neopagans, and re-enactors are less than enthused by these twats wasting oxygen and tainting public perception of these historical symbols.

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      nazis have a strange preoccupation with coopting symbols and making them toxic by association. the swastika, for another example.

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        I mean it’s a good idea for a fringe groups looking for acceptance and/or to sow division.

        Take a somewhat popular symbol, market hard so people start to associate it with you.

        If the previous users hold onto it then they will be associated with you, even if they aren’t. Making you seem more popular.

        look at all the fuss made around the Pepe memes.

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            Nnnoo… freyja is a perfectly fine deity to pick for this sentiment, in fact a better pick than Odin. As she presides over love and war, whereas Odin is just their allfather

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            Odin doesn’t hold the full domain of conflict merely by nature of being lord of Valhalla. Hell, Freyja gets half of the dead in battle to bring to Fólkangr which is incredibly similar to Valhalla. I referenced her because I have an affinity for goddesses of beauty, love, and war and because beauty and love are part of why we fight nazis. Also because a lot of people basically only think of Odin, Thor, and Loki when thinking of Norse gods and there’s more than just them.

            Though those who fight for Odin are well welcome to it, as an Odin devotee once told me at a protest, “Allfather means all father”

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    I made a knife sheeth like 25 years ago. Put a big Tyr/victory-rune on it, the one that looks like an arrow pointing upwards. Scratched it out like 10 years ago because a fucking nazi organisation choose it as their logo. God damn hate nazis

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      Fuckin hate nazis. They don’t even have the decency to only ruin lame shit, they gotta get their loser stink all over stuff that had been cool.

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        Right!? I just love Norse mythology and stuff. Stop stealing my cool shit. Glad I never got around to get that rune as a forearm tattoo, it was pretty close, but I got a tulip instead. Those two were seriously my options though

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    Man, I have a coworker who has tons of shitty rune tattoos and claims to be a Viking. But like, as far as I can tell, I don’t think he’s a Nazi? He listens to stuff like Heilung and Sabaton and I think he’s genuinely interested in Old Norse culture and history.

    Fucking Nazis ruined everything

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      He could genuinely be into norse culture, but sadly it can sometimes be a gateway into shameful metal bands (Graveland, …)

      A band like Percival Schuttenbach, which made some music for The Witcher 3, have some of their members playing with NSBM musicians

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    Symbols aren’t a carrier of meaning, but a vessel for it. I still think the solution to this kind of thing is to promote new meanings in relation to old symbols, in a way that connects the dots meaningfully to their prior historical roots. That’s what Odin would do, create a context for Norse culture and Asatru that is independent of whiteness.

    That or combine the old with newer iconographies in a way that is unmistakably anti fascist. Nordic runes combined with the three arrows, anyone?