No one said you’re American. But it’s increasingly clear that you side with the anti immigration racists since you seem so keen on helping them pretend their “concerns” aren’t racist.
Okay, what is a concrete example of an American losing their job to an immigrant? Because from where I’m sitting, it’s seemed obvious for a long time that immigrants take jobs no one else will do. This idea that immigrants are taking people’s jobs is 99% false if not more.
If an immigrant is more qualified or willing to do your work, then do better and stop blaming your issues on others. Because frankly anyone who does that just looks like a whiny racist.
… jobs get created all the time. Why would we assume the opposite? I started off here thinking there was a chance you are being genuine but each exchange makes that seem less likely.
I’m not sure the jobs we’re talking about are ones that were created or exist because of immigrantion. For example, you said Americans don’t want to do certain jobs. I’d want to hear what jobs you meant by that, which jobs are those
Yes, job positions can be vacant. Americans tend to not want to do jobs like working fields on farms.
I don’t really understand this argument. Is this 2004? This has all been talked to death. Immigrants are “taking” virtually no jobs. For that to be true, there would have needed to have been a time where practically no immigrants were present, but then more recently they have been flooding in. Unless you’re a Fox news zombie, you know that’s obviously not what’s happened. Immigrants have always been here and always will be here (and in every other country). The choice we have is how humanely we treat them and what process we provide them for getting here legally. The rhetoric that they’re “taking jobs” only serves to fuel racism. There’s basically zero truth to it. Educate yourself. I’ve had enough sealioning for today.
Working fields on a farm doesn’t sound like a new job people didn’t do before. But one reason these jobs aren’t being done anymore is because the capitalists don’t have to pay a decent wage or give decent working conditions because of immigration. It means job losses but also means exploitation of the immigrants to do the “shit jobs” which isn’t great either.
No one said you’re American. But it’s increasingly clear that you side with the anti immigration racists since you seem so keen on helping them pretend their “concerns” aren’t racist.
I think the economic and labour concerns are real and valid. Nobody wants to lose their job.
Okay, what is a concrete example of an American losing their job to an immigrant? Because from where I’m sitting, it’s seemed obvious for a long time that immigrants take jobs no one else will do. This idea that immigrants are taking people’s jobs is 99% false if not more.
If an immigrant is more qualified or willing to do your work, then do better and stop blaming your issues on others. Because frankly anyone who does that just looks like a whiny racist.
Who did those jobs before?
… jobs get created all the time. Why would we assume the opposite? I started off here thinking there was a chance you are being genuine but each exchange makes that seem less likely.
I’m not sure the jobs we’re talking about are ones that were created or exist because of immigrantion. For example, you said Americans don’t want to do certain jobs. I’d want to hear what jobs you meant by that, which jobs are those
Yes, job positions can be vacant. Americans tend to not want to do jobs like working fields on farms.
I don’t really understand this argument. Is this 2004? This has all been talked to death. Immigrants are “taking” virtually no jobs. For that to be true, there would have needed to have been a time where practically no immigrants were present, but then more recently they have been flooding in. Unless you’re a Fox news zombie, you know that’s obviously not what’s happened. Immigrants have always been here and always will be here (and in every other country). The choice we have is how humanely we treat them and what process we provide them for getting here legally. The rhetoric that they’re “taking jobs” only serves to fuel racism. There’s basically zero truth to it. Educate yourself. I’ve had enough sealioning for today.
Working fields on a farm doesn’t sound like a new job people didn’t do before. But one reason these jobs aren’t being done anymore is because the capitalists don’t have to pay a decent wage or give decent working conditions because of immigration. It means job losses but also means exploitation of the immigrants to do the “shit jobs” which isn’t great either.
We both know that I meant specific positions can be vacant. Unless you think the number of field workers literally has never changed.