• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    Also the Islamic Golden age. Imagine being the empire that spread algebra, Arabic numbers, the start of modern medicine, astronomy, and science but no one knows it came from you. Heartbreaking.

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    Completely peacful expansion right? Islam is a religion of peace right? No way they conquered, exploited and genocided like other empires right?

    Say, seen any Zoroastrian or Nubians lately?

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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      1 month ago

      Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

      PS: What do you think happened to Zoroastrians and Nubians?

      PS2: Genocide is historically not a common affair so I’m not sure what you’re talking about here.

      PS3: Islam never claims to be “the religion of peace;” this phrase was created by Westerners for a variety of reasons, so like what?

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        PS3: Islam never claims to be “the religion of peace;” this phrase was created by Westerners for a variety of reasons, so like what?

        As a westerner, I could buy that this is just a piece of propaganda I’ve just heard too many times, but it seems like I’ve heard immigrants from Muslim majority countries say this as well.

        Probably a stretch to ask (so no worries if you can’t provide) but can you point to any resources agreeing with your claim on this?

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    To be fair, it’s probably a little easier when there are far fewer people than there are in modern times.

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      What? I mean of course there were far fewer people in the Middle East than in modern times, but that’s true everywhere. By area there’s a lot of desert in former Umayyad territory, but still from west to east you had densely populated areas in Iberia, the Mediterranean coast, Egypt, the Levant, Mesopotamia, Persia and India. At its peak the Umayyad Caliphate contained 13% of the world’s population, so they were definitely no slouches on that front.

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        You’re saying there were more people in those regions 1200 years ago than today.

        Egypt alone has more people in it today than the mongols, Romans or umayyed ever had on their own.

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      1 month ago

      And yet people still complain about the Holy Roman Empire not being an empire (Southern Italy doesn’t count).