• masterspace@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    The idea that putting labels on every bottle is about “letting Canadians know and informing them better”, is flat out horseshit.

    That’s what education campaigns are for. Putting labels on every bottle is about reminding / nagging people every single time they try and enjoy having a drink to try and make them enjoy it less and change their behaviour.

    You can be on board with that or not, but let’s stop lying with the ‘its about education’ comments.

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        11 months ago

        I love you I have relentlessly asserted that the mechanism it’s working through couldn’t possibly be accurately described as nagging.

        Oh what scholars everyone is reading a cigarette label and finding out that cigarettes can give you cancer :O! How much better they understand that cigarettes do, in, fact, give, you, cancer! Suddenly knowing that brand new fact changes everything about their decision making! How better informed are they huh?

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            11 months ago

            You’re making an (asinine) assertion here that people aren’t changing their minds about smoking based on the warning labels,

            No, I’m extremely explicitly not. I’m saying that the mechanism behind that decision is not informing or education, but nagging.

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                11 months ago

                Repetition is also the key to propaganda and advertising effectiveness, it’s the reason why you know exactly what the quicker picker up is and probably hate that you do right now.

                You’re literally using the word “education” in the way that China uses it to describe their re-“education” camps for the Uighurs.

                Try and grow the fuck up and learn how to have a nuanced discussion rather than simplifying everything down to good and bad and black and white.

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                    11 months ago

                    One of us needs to do some growing up for sure; I suspect it’s the one saying that we can’t warn people about cancer because it’s the same as Chinese propaganda; that one-two punch of racism and non sequitur.

                    Me: points out that propaganda, nagging, and advertising worth through the mechanism of bombarding people with the same message over and over, and is not what we consider education, but is in fact similar to “education camps” which are explicitly distinguished from actual education institutions, since they don’t work through informing people and letting them make their own choice.

                    You: you’re racist and don’t make sense!

                    … ok there bud.