• masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Have you watched someone die who didn’t drink?

      Was it more pleasant?

      Do you support MAID, but oppose all things that make life pleasant but may result in premature death? If so, why?

        • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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          11 months ago

          Currently watching someone live in agony and slowly die from non-alcohol related cancer, you don’t have a monopoly on pain.

          Edit: also, why the fuck would anything you said above matter? Nobody is telling you that you can’t drink, they just want to make sure you know and accept the risks.

          No, that’s what education and information campaigns do. You tell people about the dangers of something. Putting warning labels on it is what you do to nag someone every single time they try and enjoy something.

          We will all die, and most of the ways to die are horrendously unpleasant. Spend your life slapping warning labels on burnt toast and avoiding going into the sun if you’re that scared of the inevitable and see if it makes you happy.

  • spyd3r@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I have about had it with this safety/nanny culture.

    Need to start putting warnings on bureaucrats instead stating, Will waste your tax money, and micromanage your life.

  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Maybe they should put a warning label on cars too, “Warning: May collide with children.”

    know the risks, people!

    they should put a warning label on pens. “Warning: May stab in eye”

    • saigot@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      While not strictly required, where i live you get to shave off a few months between the first and second levels of your license if you take lessons, and a required part of those lessons is watching an uncensored video on the consequences of drunk driving, speeding in school zones and not respecting semis. It left quite the impression.

  • xthexder@l.sw0.com
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    11 months ago

    As long as the labels don’t end up on absolutely everything like in California. It makes sense on things you actually consume, but a lot of other tech products and tools have the California warnings and it’s become meaningless to me.

    I have no way of knowing if just holding a thing increases my risk of cancer or if it’s just an issue if I was to lick a surface or consume something inside. I mean, aluminum apparently causes cancer?!? What can I even do with that information?

    Edit: I read the wrong list, Aluminum is fine but other metals like Lead and Nickel are bad. The problem is the labels don’t tell you what the danger is. Does the product have a literal lead weight inside that you’ll never touch? Or is the outside coated in one of the other 600 cancer causing chemicals? (https://oehha.ca.gov/media/downloads/proposition-65//p65chemicalslist.pdf)

    Crazy that wood dust is on there. That explains why basically all IKEA furniture “may cause cancer”

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 months ago

    The idea that putting labels on every bottle is about “letting Canadians know and informing them better”, is flat out horseshit.

    That’s what education campaigns are for. Putting labels on every bottle is about reminding / nagging people every single time they try and enjoy having a drink to try and make them enjoy it less and change their behaviour.

    You can be on board with that or not, but let’s stop lying with the ‘its about education’ comments.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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        11 months ago

        I love you I have relentlessly asserted that the mechanism it’s working through couldn’t possibly be accurately described as nagging.

        Oh what scholars everyone is reading a cigarette label and finding out that cigarettes can give you cancer :O! How much better they understand that cigarettes do, in, fact, give, you, cancer! Suddenly knowing that brand new fact changes everything about their decision making! How better informed are they huh?

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 months ago

            You’re making an (asinine) assertion here that people aren’t changing their minds about smoking based on the warning labels,

            No, I’m extremely explicitly not. I’m saying that the mechanism behind that decision is not informing or education, but nagging.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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                11 months ago

                Repetition is also the key to propaganda and advertising effectiveness, it’s the reason why you know exactly what the quicker picker up is and probably hate that you do right now.

                You’re literally using the word “education” in the way that China uses it to describe their re-“education” camps for the Uighurs.

                Try and grow the fuck up and learn how to have a nuanced discussion rather than simplifying everything down to good and bad and black and white.