Eldritch

Yep, its close. Hopefully we’ll see some with better support for the hardware soon. Seems like with riscv many are waiting for rva23 hardware. Which we should start seeing any time now.

You aren’t alone. I remember BeOS 4 on my old Pentium II just screamed with that old ATI card. It’s always deserved better than it got, and it’s great to see the project has come so far. Especially adding resources for modern languages like this.

The one thing I think they’re kind of sleeping on that I really wish I could find. Are versions of it compiled and packaged for a couple of popular SBC at least. I know they’ve got it running on arm as well as riscv. I feel like the Raspberry Pi and similar SBCs brought some attention and more relevance back to things like Risc OS. BeOS/Haiku It would seem perfectly suited to the towards an ecosystem like that. I’m sure it will get there someday.

@ActionRetro@bitbang.social is a fan of the cursed.

No worries. At these times right now, it’s just kind of one day at a time. We spend so much time looking for where the next shit storm is coming from. Sometimes we just miss finding the humor in things.

That’s the joke. She wouldn’t approve it’s use here. That’s why it’s funny.

Oh absolutely, it’s just missing some of the integration and features that KDE provides. I was speaking more of KDE in terms of hyperland or sway. Granted, it’s just copying over configuration files after you’ve futzed around getting things exactly how you want. Though that’s a bit much for me. Typically with KDE, I just set it to dark mode and that’s largely it.

Fair enough. Though if you are comfortable in Linux. I can recommend Garuda’s KDE lite iso. Plasma, SSDM, and just enough other bits to get to the desktop. Missing a lot of other bits some would consider necessary. But it’s all just a pacman or yay away. No discover or most of the other KDE apps unless you ask for them. Definitely not for the terminal fearing crowd. But a bit less friction than vanilla arch.

You mean like whiz bang zoom distractions or just a lot of stuff to download if you do a full install whether or not you’re going to use all the different KDE apps.

That feels about right. I know that when I go to set up a desktop system anymore, KDE is usually my default go to. It just works and doesn’t tell me no for the few customizations that I want to make. XFCE and the others are absolutely vital for lower power systems. But if you want a low-friction daily driver with plenty nice to haves and easily replicable, it’s hard to beat KDE.

Hey now, to be fair the party denies it. And there is no independent press or press freedom so we just have to take their word. Because having no press or press freedom is exactly what innocent hierarchial power structures do.

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Oooooeeee! The ML love brigade is here. Keep up the pyrrhic downvotes! Totally gonna change my mind lol.

No. Not really. Microsoft also included token ring networking and multiple others. Now however, most people would think you were a pothead if you mentioned token ring.

Before Microsoft adopted the MIT licensed BSD stack. There were small and large alternatives. Novel netware being a huge one on the corporate side. For both Mac and PC. When I went to school for network management, we learned netware.

AT&T had much much more influence on it’s adoption. By the 90s, if you were procuring network infrastructure, it was generally Ethernet and TCP IP. Microsoft supported it in lan manager and NT. It was also an option for Windows 3.11 and 95. But Microsoft didn’t even ship it as a base part of their home operating system until Windows 98. Even Apple beat them on that technicality.

There has arguably been much more commercial support proprietary and otherwise of GPL than MIT licensed software. Not even close. Sony, Apple and a ton of big companies use BSD or MIT licensed code. You could do pages and pages. A practical who’s who of the tech industry as to who has borrowed MIT code. The ones that contributed back wouldn’t hardly justify a footnote. Most GPL projects, especially the big ones, have pages listing many, many corporate sponsorships and supporters, not just the Linux kernel.

I never judged anyone for their license choice. Use the unlicense for all I care. But those sort of licenses as a rule don’t generate much actual support or contribution back.

Would anyone have continued to use windows without a TCP/IP stack of their own till the mid 2000? Apple?

Inarguably in the face of the growing ubiquity of the Internet. Ms and Apple being able to just swipe the BSD stacks, giving little to nothing back. Definitely didn’t help. Which isn’t even considering what adoption *nix systems might have seen. Had Microsoft not only missed early adoption. But then struggled to implement a decent stack at the same time.

Had it not been for it’s license and the court battle at the time. There likely would be no Linux and we’d have all been running BSD based systems for decades now.

Yup. Friction is the number one answer. Things just aren’t quite exactly as they expect or there’s just this one weird niche app they have to have. For my mother it was a cobbled together from parts of visual basic java and a few other things. That wine CAN run. But between the different tools and toolkits. The menubar renders incorrectly.

The solution however was not to drop Linux. Fortunately, there was an Android version, which I couldn’t get running properly with waydroid because of poor integrated Intel graphics support, at least for non-XE cores. But a $200 tablet solved that problem. Nice big screen et cetera for her.

Not yet. But I don’t think it would take much to get him doing it. He already runs his own mastodon instance and a number of other services himself.

He’s on the fediverse too. @ActionRetro@bitbang.social

Yes, considering how the Raspberry Pi has generally become rather unaffordable lately. System power leaves a lot to be desired, but the price point is going to draw a lot of eyes. It’s a good point to enter the market at least. However, if it has no RVA32 support. General support of it might be pretty narrow.