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cm0002@lemmy.zip to Linux@programming.dev · 1 month ago

GNOME Mutter Now "Completely Drops The Whole X11 Backend"

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GNOME Mutter Now "Completely Drops The Whole X11 Backend"

www.phoronix.com

cm0002@lemmy.zip to Linux@programming.dev · 1 month ago
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    In this video (Odysee link), someone asks X11 users why they’re still using it in 2025. The main answers were

    1. DE or WM doesn’t support Wayland, or its Wayland session is currently WIP.
    2. [lack of] support for certain graphic tablets and their features.
    3. old hardware. Specially old nVidia GPUs.
    4. [If I got this right] Some software expects to be able to dictate window position, and Wayland doesn’t let it to.
    5. OpenBSD.

    In the light of the above, I think GNOME’s decision to drop the X11 backend is a big “meh, who cares”. If you use GNOME you’re likely not in the first case; #2 and #3 boil down to hardware support, not something DE developers can interfere directly; I’m not sure on #4 and #5, however.

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      old hardware. Specially old nVidia GPUs.

      “Fuck you, Nvidia” was in June 2012. People who bought Nvidia hardware after that really have nobody to blame but themselves.

      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/

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    Idle power on my laptop.

    KDE Wayland: 10 watts
    KDE X11: 6 watts

    It was this way when I checked years ago. Still this way as of a few weeks ago.

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