• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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    Trump was the first one to try to repeal the 14th amendment, the one Lincoln was famous for signing off on, so that Trump can try to take away the rights of, imprison, and remove anybody he wants at any time without a real warrant.

    Don’t try to normalize this shit.

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        The fact that you had to go back just under 200 years to find another example really illustrates how bad it is.

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            Still not worse than the Trump immigration camps, no.

            The USA incarcerated about 120,000 Japanese, which is not only smaller in scale but afaik was a completely public operation rather than a scheme to enrich private prison companies.

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                  Are you saying we didn’t have a president in 1954?

                  At this point I am fairly certain you are a troll and I am tagging you as such. Good day.

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                    2 months ago

                    Forgive me for not taking this conversation very seriously, I kind of wrote you off as any sensible person when you started defending the Trump admin.

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                  Ever heard of Barack Obama? 2009 winner. During his terms to 2017, ordered 1,878 drone strikes. Unknown number of innocent people killed. 2017 was 8 years ago.

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                    Unironically the best POTUS of the last half century, saved millions from death and suffering by expanding Medicaid and funding deradicalization programs.

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              But they also went back to 1954, refuting your entire premise of that they had to go back 200 years to find anything.

              Just admit you didn’t know when it was and take the L.

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      He did something bad to Americans instead of Americans doing something bad to the rest of us for once.

      Don’t normalize the rest of your shit.

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        Truth. Americans get offended by it. The american naive privileged culture is sickening and an enemy of genuine humanity.

        Eventually the world might start to do something to complacent regular americans and the fact they are letting their nation affect the world negatively.

        Maybe Israel, Russia, and America should be taken care of.

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          It’s a rare opinion to hold that both the USA and Russia should be dealt with, I commend you for not being some mindless Tankie, at least.

          That said, any such conflict is completely unfeasible because it would result in the rise of an even worse Chinese global supremacy, and they are literally worse. It would also result in a worsening middle eastern situation as China is funding Iran who funds and arms radical militants across the middle east, which would continue even after the US and Russian proxy war ends because China would still be adversarial to the EU.

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            All you’re doing is starting arguments online, everyone is upset about the crimes and all you’re doing is making that about yourself

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              everyone is upset about the crimes

              Not upset enough to ever do anything about, it’s been going on for over a century now.

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                This is like blaming the Chinese or Russians for their awful governments. I truly don’t understand how people get so self righteous to the point of completely ignoring what real life is.

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                  And who do you think is responsible for their country if not the people who make up said country, who provide the material means for said country to function, and through inaction enable said government to do as it please?

                  We gonna make Norway responsible for them all or does everyone get a free pass?

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                  They’re not interested in solving the actual problem, you notice they’re not saying “hey call your representative, demand that they refuse any more AIPAC money” (asterisk, fantastic idea).

                  Instead we get the whole “this joke post isn’t specifically about the thing I’m mad about, and everything that fails to flatter me feels like an attack because I externalise all my negative emotions like a child” treatment.

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                    hey call your representative, demand that they refuse any more AIPAC money

                    You should have been doing that 30 years ago.

                    Why the hell is it anyone else’s responsibility for your country? Always with the deflect and deny, never ever taking accountability.

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        My apologies I didn’t realize the USA suddenly started acting like saints to the rest of the world the moment the violent fascist was elected. /s

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        1- It was a joke about how America is racist

        2- Most everyone here knows our presidents are no saints. But none have been openly this evil. And if you make all of them devils, how do you signify one has been worse to his people than the devil?

        3- you’re literally getting butthurt about emojis

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          But none have been openly this evil.

          https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

          The 542 drone strikes that Obama authorized killed an estimated 3,797 people, including 324 civilians. As he reportedly told senior aides in 2011: “Turns out I’m really good at killing people. Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.”

          Americans are fucking delusional about their governments.

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          you’re literally getting butthurt about emojis

          No, I’m getting butthurt over US presidents and their inhumane acts.

          Now stop getting literally butthurt over some Latin characters.

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            Oh cause all the first ones were angels, right?

            No. They werent. It was a joke about how (some) Americans went scored earth after a black man became president.

            Getting butthurt over Latin characters is semi normal. Getting butthurt over little pictures of cartoon men is just sad.