• Lulzagna@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    You do realize that these things go hand in hand, no? Capitalists needwant cheap labor, so they exploit immigrants, in turn driving down wages for everyone.

    Edit: I received some criticism as though I’m suggesting “immigrants are taking our jobs” - that’s wrong. I’m only saying that capitalists are exploiting a vulnerable population, which in turn creates more wage stagnation as the market is flooded with cheap labour.

    I’m very pro-immigration, but I try to understand the nuance it has on the job market.___

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      19 hours ago

      I absolutely agree with you there. We need immigration, but it has to be controlled so that wages can climb to a reasonable level.

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      This is a short sighted view. Immigrants don’t just “take a job”. They also require food, shelter, transportation, entertainment, etc, all the things that create demand, the actual job creator. To the extent that our immigration suppresses wages, it’s because we bring many of them in as TFWs. If we just made it easy for them to get citizenship rather than forcing them into an easily exploitable position wage suppression would be much less of an issue.

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        20 hours ago

        This is a short sighted view.

        Yes, businesses these days do tend to operate on a very short-sighted model. Usually not much longer than next quarters profits.

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        20 hours ago

        Holy, straw man argument much? You took one sentence, misinterpreted it, and spiraled it into a complete made-up narrative.

        My only point is flooding the market with cheap labor has a ripple effect that brings down wages as a whole, not just for those being exploited. Nothing I said suggests that immigrants are to blame by “taking our jobs”.

        TFWs aren’t the only way immigrants are being exploited, that is short sighted. There’s also PGWP propped up by phony trade schools and community colleges. TFWs give capitalists leverage, but it’s not the whole problem.

        • grte@lemmy.ca
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          20 hours ago

          My only point is flooding the market with cheap labor has a ripple effect that brings down wages as a whole, not just for those being exploited. Nothing I said suggests that immigrants are to blame by “taking our jobs”.

          Please. People who use Marxist language to justify their xenophobia are the fakest “leftists”.